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Wednesday, May 29th 2024
by btarunrDiscuss (90 Comments)
An AMD Ryzen 9000 "Granite Ridge" desktop processor engineering sample with a maximum boost frequency of 5.80 GHz was found to offer an astonishing 19% higher single-threaded performance increase over an AMD Ryzen 9 7950X. "Granite Ridge" is codename for the Socket AM5 desktop processor family that implements the new "Zen 5" CPU microarchitecture. The unnamed "Granite Ridge" processor comes with an OPN code of 100-0000001290. Its CPU core count is irrelevant, as the single-threaded performance is in question here. The processor boosts up to 5.80 GHz, which means the core handling the single-threaded benchmark workload is achieving this speed. This speed is 100 MHz higher than the 5.70 GHz that the Ryzen 9 7950X processor based on the "Zen 4" architecture, boosts up to.
The single-threaded benchmark in question is the CPU-Z Bench. The mostly blurred out CPU-Z screenshot that reveals the OPN also mentions a processor TDP of 170 W, which means this engineering sample chip is either 12-core or 16-core. The chip posts a CPU-Z Bench single-thread score of 910 points, which matches that of the Intel Core i9-14900K with its 908 points. You've to understand that the i9-14900K boosts one of its P-cores to 6.00 GHz, to yield the 908 points that's part CPU-Z's reference scores. So straight off the bat, we see that "Zen 5" has a higher IPC than the "Raptor Cove" P-core powering the i9-14900K. Its gaming performance might end up higher than the Ryzen 7000 X3D family.
Many Thanks to TumbleGeorge for the tip.
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Unfortunately this is fake and the original source removed it
d0x360Unfortunately this is fake and the original source removed it
Makes sense to be either under very high overclock, or to be fake altogether.
As mentioned above, the IPC increase from Zen 3 to Zen 4 was a miserable 1%, and CPU-Z obviously doesn't recognise (or is "optimised" to be running slow on) the AMD Ryzen CPUs properly, so we can't really expect over 18% IPC increase, unless the bench is changed. I don't know how the newer 19.01.64 AVX2 (beta) and 19.01.64 (beta) compare to the default 17.01.64 test.
AMD be trolling us and Intel IMO.
Shatun_BearWhat's your power draw to achieve 980 score? 500 watts from the CPU alone?
Goes up to 250W on multi threaded work and about 40-50W on a single thread. I don't think I've written somewhere that top OCed Intel chips like 14900K(S) are more power efficient because they are not. But at least with Intel chips you can decide if you want to throw the efficiency out the window and do a max score or you want to sacrifice some performance for efficiency. If I wanted my 14900K to score 900 points in CPU-Z then I could lower the vcore quite a bit resulting in far greater efficiency probably close to what AMD has.
Anyway the point is that 900 1T cpu-z score for next gen AMD is bad since it hardly matches Intels curren't gen. And let's not even mention Apple M4 which blows them all out of the water.
thesmokingmanNow that's an enticing bump if true. Time for the leaks...
19% more performance or 19% IPC ? 19% performance would be a bit disappointing knowing that ZEN 5 is supposed to be a new architecture... On 1 core it's not bad, even though 30% would be much better imho.
x4it3n19% more performance or 19% IPC ? 19% performance would be a bit disappointing knowing that ZEN 5 is supposed to be a new architecture... On 1 core it's not bad, even though 30% would be much better imho.
Of course. If those low numbers confirm, then it will be another generation which will be skipped by the majority of users with ease, and AMD will have to decrease the pricings, which will negatively reflect its financial sheets.
Extremely conservative generation...
x4it3n19% more performance or 19% IPC ? 19% performance would be a bit disappointing knowing that ZEN 5 is supposed to be a new architecture... On 1 core it's not bad, even though 30% would be much better imho.
Well, then visit AMD with *your* CPU design that improves upon Zen4 by 30% on average. They won't reject you and will want to take a look at the design.
atomsymbolWell, then visit AMD with *your* CPU design that improves upon Zen4 by 30% on average. They won't reject you and will want to take a look at the design.
Haha yeah but that's their job you see...they hired Jim Keller for that several years ago!
I'll be buying a ZEN 5 3D (for Gaming) so I hope they improved the latency with the interconnect bandwidth. 19% more performance for a new architecture is not bad at all, but it's not crazy good either! ZEN 5 was hyped as the Messiah of CPUs so yeah. Maybe ZEN 6 will be the true "Game Changer"
x4it3nZEN 5 was hyped as the Messiah of CPUs so yeah.
I have been following Zen5 leaks from time to time, and I don't think that it was presented as a "Messiah CPU".
All Zen CPUs (that is: Zen 1, Zen 2, Zen 3, Zen 4) had 6-wide dispatch since the beginning, while at the same time the IPC difference between Zen1 and Zen4 is fairly large, thus if by "Repipelined frontend" AMD in their own Zen5 slide meant changes in the frontend to supply the 8-wide dispatch in Zen5 with enough µops per clock cycle, then the claim about "Repipelined frontend" would be quite accurate and would reflect reality. Whether the term "New grounds up microarchitecture" used in AMD's slide was an overly bold statement or wasn't is to be seen about 1 week from today - so we wait.
Well, of course AMD is *today* busy finishing the Zen6 design (in parallel to launching Zen5) and already knows the approximate/projected/simulated IPC of the future Zen6 CPU. But we need to wait - so we wait. Of course we are encouraging them to their best and push some limits!
From git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/patch/?id=29c73fc794c83505066ee6db893b2a83ac5fac63 (file pipeline.json):
"Total dispatch slots (up to 8 instructions can be dispatched in each cycle)."
I really want ZEN 5 to be a great architecture and succeed but it's been talked so much for years that it doesn't sound that much impressive anymore lol. I guess leakers or people making fake news just spoil it for us because we have high expectations and then end up being somewhat disappointed.
atomsymbolI have been following Zen5 leaks from time to time, and I don't think that it was presented as a "Messiah CPU".All Zen CPUs (that is: Zen 1, Zen 2, Zen 3, Zen 4) had 6-wide dispatch since the beginning, while at the same time the IPC difference between Zen1 and Zen4 is fairly large, thus if by "Repipelined frontend" AMD in their own Zen5 slide meant changes in the frontend to supply the 8-wide dispatch in Zen5 with enough µops per clock cycle, then the claim about "Repipelined frontend" would be quite accurate and would reflect reality. Whether the term "New grounds up microarchitecture" used in AMD's slide was an overly bold statement or wasn't is to be seen about 1 week from today - so we wait.
Well, of course AMD is *today* busy finishing the Zen6 design (in parallel to launching Zen5) and already knows the approximate/projected/simulated IPC of the future Zen6 CPU. But we need to wait - so we wait. Of course we are encouraging them to their best and push some limits!
From git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/patch/?id=29c73fc794c83505066ee6db893b2a83ac5fac63 (file pipeline.json):
"Total dispatch slots (up to 8 instructions can be dispatched in each cycle)."
x4it3nI really want ZEN 5 to be a great architecture and succeed but it's been talked so much for years that it doesn't sound that much impressive anymore lol. I guess leakers or people making fake news just spoil it for us because we have high expectations and then end up being somewhat disappointed.
atomsymbolI have been following Zen5 leaks from time to time, and I don't think that it was presented as a "Messiah CPU".All Zen CPUs (that is: Zen 1, Zen 2, Zen 3, Zen 4) had 6-wide dispatch since the beginning, while at the same time the IPC difference between Zen1 and Zen4 is fairly large, thus if by "Repipelined frontend" AMD in their own Zen5 slide meant changes in the frontend to supply the 8-wide dispatch in Zen5 with enough µops per clock cycle, then the claim about "Repipelined frontend" would be quite accurate and would reflect reality. Whether the term "New grounds up microarchitecture" used in AMD's slide was an overly bold statement or wasn't is to be seen about 1 week from today - so we wait.
Well, of course AMD is *today* busy finishing the Zen6 design (in parallel to launching Zen5) and already knows the approximate/projected/simulated IPC of the future Zen6 CPU. But we need to wait - so we wait. Of course we are encouraging them to their best and push some limits!
From git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/patch/?id=29c73fc794c83505066ee6db893b2a83ac5fac63 (file pipeline.json):
"Total dispatch slots (up to 8 instructions can be dispatched in each cycle)."
I like your attitude. You should post more. :toast:
x4it3n19% more performance or 19% IPC ? 19% performance would be a bit disappointing knowing that ZEN 5 is supposed to be a new architecture... On 1 core it's not bad, even though 30% would be much better imho.
You must have loved the Intel days. IPC gains of 1-3% every two years was just amazing to behold. It will go back to this without AMD, or perhaps without Intel too!
But I will say that IMO Zen 4 and AM5 in general is very disappointing. AMD did not go nearly far enough and left themselves behind Intel until the x3D chips came out. Zen 5 really needs to address this and make the AM5 platform worth the high cost of membership. I hear Zen 5 will bring with it a refresh of AM5 with USB4 support via a MediaTek chip, which I really hope doesn't suck. Memory support on AM5 is a joke, but I hear the refresh may tackle this with an IF of 2.4GHz, officially supporting DDR5 8000, AMD desperately need this, as their memory controller on Zen 4 really is a complete joke compared to what Intel gets, even at the same speed. I also hope they also sort out the PCiE5 issues and make it more widespread than just the most expensive motherboards. But it's AMD, and they have never been particularly great with chipsets.
stimpy88When AMD first released the Zen2 architecture, CPU-Z's author (or Intel) decided that he didn't like the Zen2 out-performing the Intel chip at the time, so a new benchmark version was released, reducing the AMD scores (Intel scores stayed the same) by some 15%. I have never taken the CPU-Z benchmark seriously after that, as it's apparently just an Intel sponsored benchmark.
No one cares what you take seriously or not, Zen 2 was trash which was slower than Skylake, so having it beating Intel by 20% was ridiculous.
SuspectoNo one cares what you take seriously or not, Zen 2 was trash which was slower than Skylake, so having it beating Intel by 20% was ridiculous.
LOL, My 3950x is laughing at this statement although somewhat slowly compared to todays CPU's.
